“Deeper than the ocean and higher than the mountain.” This is how visiting Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has described Sino-Pakistani relations.
　　Musharraf made the comment during his five-day official visit to China, starting February 19, when he met Chinese President Hu Jintao, Premier Wen Jiabao, as well as representatives from Chinese industrial and business circles. Musharraf also delivered a speech at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, China’s think tank, in Beijing.
　　During his stay in Beijing, China and Pakistan signed a total of 13 cooperation agreements in defense, trade, energy, food, agriculture, education, health and meteorological science and technology.
　　In an exclusive interview with Beijing Review before he concluded his stay in the capital, Musharraf further expressed his determination to continue fighting international terrorism, resolving disputes with India on Kashmir, and preventing nuclear proliferation. He also elaborated on Pakistan’s foreign policy.
　　
　　Beijing Review: Mr. President, you are concluding your visit to China. Are you satisfied with your trip? What do you think is the most important result of your visit?
　　President Pervez Musharraf: We are very happy and fully satisfied. It is difficult for me to single out one result as the most important. Our relationship is actually very broadly based. We have a strong political relationship, and close commercial and trade relationships. We also have a close defense relationship and a strategic relationship. We have cooperation on nuclear power. We also discussed issues in other sectors, such as health and education, as well as every other aspect of our relationship. And we achieved many concrete results.
　　Enhancing economic and trade cooperation with China certainly is a major purpose of your visit. You have emphasized many times that Pakistan can serve as a “trade corridor,” “energy corridor” and a “transport hub” in the region. What are the unique conditions for Pakistan to play such roles as compared with other countries in the region?
　　It [The corridor] is important for Pakistan, and it is also important for other countries. One has to consider mutual benefits whenever you develop a relationship with any other country. They attract you and you attract them.
　　Pakistan’s geography gives us a lot of advantages to serve as the “corridor,” because it is the center between South Asia, China and Central Asian republics. For anyone who wants to interact between these regions, it is not possible without Pakistan.
　　We are very proud of the fact that China has opened up to the outside world. It is investing in the world. But the country gets oil from Saudi Arabia and transports the oil all the way around to its east coast. The transport route is very long. China also trades with Europe, Africa, the Middle East and India. How can China do all this through its east coast? China can go through Pakistan. Pakistan is conscious it can provide a link. Because of our friendship with China and Central Asian republics, we would like to provide a shortcut route and contribute to all kinds of trade and energy cooperation. Therefore, I call Pakistan the trade and energy corridor of the region.
　　
　　What are your country’s foreign policies and its current priorities?
　　Our policy is very clear. We want to have peaceful and harmonious relationships with all countries in the world, so as to develop our economy as fast as possible. This is the objective of our foreign policy.
　　There are certain frictions that we have with some countries in the region, such as India. We want to settle those frictions, so that we could have harmonious relations. Regarding our relationships with Western countries, this century basically is a century of the economy. Every country is looking for economic development for the prosperity of its people. So, basically, it is a kind of economic management and strategic management [between Pakistan and Western countries]. Of course, we have excellent relations with China. We would like to have harmonious relations with all countries in the world because we would like to promote our economic interests. That is how countries in the world should deal with each other. That’s why we try to fight terrorism and extremism as a part of the world coalition. At the same time, we would like to interact with the world economically. So this is a complex issue for Pakistan. This is a very, very complex situation. We are fighting terrorism and we want to seek economic growth. We want to have a [harmonious] relationship with the whole world, but we have tensions within our own region.
　　
　　I believe we should approach all the issues on a mutually beneficial basis. Our relationship with any other country should not affect our relationship with China. So, we see relations in a bilateral context because every country has its own interests.
　　You just mentioned the disputes between Pakistan and India. I noticed that during your visit to India in April last year, the two countries issued a joint communiqué pointing out that the Pakistani-Indian peace process had become “irreversible.” What steps are you taking to accelerate and ensure such a process?
　　I used that word first and they also agreed that the process should be irreversible. We are finding out ways to resolve the disputes. If it were reversible, it would arouse a lot of disputes. Pakistan has given a lot of proposals on the resolution of the Kashmir issue. That makes it irreversible.
　　I repeated many times that it is the peoples of our two countries who desire peace and harmony. When people desire that, it becomes irreversible.
　　Pakistan has been standing at the forefront of the global fight against terrorism and extremism. What measures are you taking to enhance international cooperation in combating terrorism and extremism?
　　Pakistan is playing a leading role in fighting international terrorism. We have suffered terribly [from terrorism] with almost 400 [people] killed.
　　We have been fighting the Taliban and Al Qaeda. They have retreated from the cities of Pakistan and we have caught more than 600 of them. Our cities are now safe because we have not seen attacks for quite some time. Then we attacked them in the mountains. We are aggressively doing that and we have deployed the army there. There are about 50,000 troops deployed against Al Qaeda and the Taliban. I think our government is making maximum efforts to fight against terrorism, not only for Pakistan but for the world as well.
　　Potential proliferation of nuclear weapons has become a major concern of the international community. What is your stand on this issue and what measures should be taken to prevent it?
　　Pakistan is against any kind of nuclear proliferation. But Pakistan also believes that every country has the right to use nuclear power for peaceful purposes. For that, we understand very clearly that there should be no proliferation of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction around the world.

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